Ketubot 29B

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There is a fine even in a place where there is sale. That is, not only can a minor girl from the age of 3 be sold until she matures, but she also receives payment of the fine.

§ The Talmud questions the basic halakha that one who rapes young women of flawed lineage is liable to pay the fine: And are these young women entitled to the fine? But why? I read here with regard to a rapist: “And to him she shall be as a wife” (Deuteronomy 22:29), from which the rabbis derived th

Rav Pappa said: This is derived from the halakha of the seducer, as the verses state: “And if a man seduce a virgin…he shall weigh money like the dowry of the virgins” (Exodus 22:15–16). This is tantamount to 3 mentions: Virgin, virgins, the virgins. One mention is required to teach the matter itse

The Talmud asks: And Rav Pappa, what is the reason that he did not cite the source as Reish Lakish did? The Talmud answers: That derivation from the 3 instances of the term young woman is required by him to teach in accordance with that which Abaye said, as Abaye said: If one engaged in forced sex

The Talmud asks: And Reish Lakish, what is the reason that he did not cite the source as Rav Pappa did? The Talmud answers: That derivation from the 3 instances of the term virgin is required by him to derive a verbal analogy, as it is taught in a baraita that it is written with regard to a seducer: