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that our Mishnah is in accordance with the opinion of R' Yehoshua, who said that one mentions rain from the time of putting the lulav down, from the 8th Day of Assembly, and it is not in accordance with the opinion of R' Eliezer. Rava said: Even if you say that the ruling of the Mishnah is in accor
§ The Mishnah stated that R' Yehuda says: With regard to the one who passes before the ark as prayer leader on the concluding Festival day of Sukkot, the 8th Day of Assembly, the prayer leader of the additional prayer mentions rain, while the leader of the morning prayer does not. The reverse is th
And the Talmud raises a contradiction from a baraita (5a): Until when does one request rain? R' Yehuda says: Until Passover has passed. R' Meir says: Until the month of Nisan has passed. According to the baraita, R' Yehuda holds that one prays for rain until the end of Passover, whereas the Mishnah
Rav Ḥisda said: This is not difficult. The baraita here is referring to the request for rain, which continues until the end of Passover, whereas the Mishnah there rules that one is to mention rain only until the first Festival day. In other words, R' Yehuda holds that one continues requesting rain
The Talmud raises a difficulty against this answer. Ulla said: That which Rav Ḥisda said is as difficult to accept “as vinegar to the teeth, and as smoke to the eyes” (Proverbs 10:26). He elaborates: If when one does not yet request rain, at the beginning of the winter, one nevertheless mentions rai