Shabbat 8B

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One who intended to establish his Shabbat abode in the public domain at a specific site must place food sufficient for two meals for that site to be considered his legal residence. And if he placed the food used for his eiruv in a pit above 10 handbreadths, i.e., less than 10 handbreadths below gro

The Talmud seeks to clarify the details of this case. What are the exact circumstances? If you say that the baraita is referring to a pit that has 10 handbreadths in depth and the phrase: And he placed it above 10 handbreadths, means that he raised the eiruv and placed it within 10 handbreadths of g

Rather, is the baraita not referring to a pit that does not have in it a depth of 10 handbreadths? And the baraita should be understood as follows: If he placed his eiruv below 10 handbreadths, refers to a pit whose lowest point is 10 handbreadths or more below ground level. If he placed his eiruv

Rava suggested various responses to this objection. At times he would answer him that it is referring to a case where both he and his eiruv are in a karmelit, i.e., that he intended to establish residence in a karmelit and placed his eiruv there. The pit is less than 10 handbreadths deep, and conse

And at times he would answer him that it is referring to a case where he was, indeed, in the public domain and his eiruv was in a karmelit, as a pit that is not 10 handbreadths deep is not part of the public domain, rather it is a karmelit. With regard to the question, how can this be considered a