Sanhedrin 30B

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and everyone, both the first tanna and R' Natan, holds in accordance with the opinion of the Rabbis who disagree with R' Yehoshua ben Korḥa, and derive from this verse that it is necessary that the witnesses see the incident together, i.e., they were both present and observed the incident at the s

The Talmud relates: R' Shimon ben Elyakim was striving to ordain R' Yosei, son of R' Ḥanina, and was not successful in his attempts. One day, R' Shimon ben Elyakim was sitting before R' Yoḥanan among R' Yoḥanan’s other students.

R' Yoḥanan said to his students: Is there anyone who knows whether the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of R' Yehoshua ben Korḥa, or not? R' Shimon ben Elyakim said to him: This one, R' Yosei, son of R' Ḥanina, knows. R' Yoḥanan said to him: If so, let him say. R' Shimon ben Elyakim said

R' Yoḥanan said to him: My son, tell me what you heard. R' Yosei, son of R' Ḥanina, said to him: This is what I heard: That R' Yehoshua ben Korḥa concedes to the opinion of R' Natan that it is unnecessary for the witnesses to testify together.

R' Yoḥanan was disappointed, and said: For this I needed to ordain him? Now that with regard to the main element of testimony, i.e., observing the incident, R' Yehoshua ben Korḥa says we do not need both witnesses to see it together, with regard to their statement in court, is it necessary to expli