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Rava’s dilemma is based on the assumption that a rape victim is able to conceive before she is a grown woman. The Talmud asks: And can a minor conceive? But didn’t Rav Beivai teach a baraita before Rav Naḥman: It is permitted for 3 women to engage in sex with a contraceptive resorbent. These are th
And the baraita further states: What is a minor girl? A minor girl is a girl from 11 years and one day old until 12 years and one day old. If she was less than that age or more than that age, she proceeds and engages in sex in her usual manner; this is the statement of R' Meir. And the Rabbis say
And if you say that she conceived when she was a young woman, 12 years old, and gave birth when she was a young woman, and died before she reached the status of a grown woman, can a woman give birth in 6 months after conception? But didn’t Shmuel say: There are only 6 months between becoming a you
Rather, Rava’s dilemma is unrelated to whether or not her son inherits the fine payment. This is his dilemma: Is there achievement of grown-woman status in the grave and therefore the right of the father to receive payment of the fine lapsed; and since there is no one claiming the payment, the rap
On a similar note, Rava inquired of Abaye: If he forcibly had sex with a young woman and she was later betrothed, what is the halakha? Abaye said to him: Is it written: And he shall give to the father of the young woman who is not betrothed? Actually it is written: “If a man finds a young woman…wh