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or into a ruin, which is typically located outside the city, and if a man and woman meet there it is presumably in order to have sex, and people said to her: What is the nature of this man with whom you secluded? She said to them: He is a priest, and he is the son of my father’s brother, a respect
Granted, according to Ze’eiri, who said that speaking means that she secluded herself, that is the reason that the tanna teaches two cases where there is merely concern: The case of: Into seclusion, where there is lesser concern that she had sex, and the case of: Into a ruin, where there is great
The Talmud asks: But isn’t the Mishnah teaching two different cases: Into seclusion or into a ruin? The Talmud suggests a different explanation. According to Rav Asi, two cases are necessary, one with regard to a ruin in the city and one with regard to a ruin in the field, distant from the city. A
And if the tanna taught us only that case of a ruin in the field, one might have concluded that in that case R' Yehoshua said she is not deemed credible, because the majority of the people there are of flawed lineage. However here, in the case of a ruin in the city, where the majority of the people
The Talmud raises an objection from the Tosefta: This, i.e., that she had sex with a man of impeccable lineage, is testimony that a woman is fit to testify. And R' Yehoshua says: She is not deemed credible. R' Yehoshua said to the rabbis: Do you not agree in the case of a woman who was taken captiv