Chullin 57B

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we had the opportunity to speak with Rav Huna, and we asked him about this matter, and he said to us: A dislocated femur in a bird is kosher.

And I also found R' Yirmeya bar Abba sitting and inspecting birds at the convergence of sinews in the thigh. And I posed a difficulty to him: Doesn’t Master maintain in accordance with this statement that Rav Huna says that Rav says: A dislocated femur in a bird is kosher? R' Yirmeya bar Abba said

And I said to him: If so, this statement of Rav poses a difficulty for that statement of Rav. R' Yirmeya bar Abba was silent. And I challenged him: But perhaps there is a difference for Rav between a dislocated femur and a severed one. And he said to me: And are you interpreting Rav’s halakha base

R' Abba then asked R' Zeira: And as for you, what is in your hand? What have you heard with regard to this halakha? R' Zeira said to him: This is what Rav Ḥiyya bar Ashi says that Rav says: A dislocated femur in a bird renders it a tereifa. And so said R' Ya’akov bar Idi that R' Yoḥanan said: A dis

And with regard to this, R' Ya’akov bar Idi said: If R' Yoḥanan had been in the place where the assembly ruled to permit such a bird, he would not have stirred. In other words, he would not have contested their ruling, because they were the greatest rabbis of the previous generation. As R' Ḥanina s