Study Bava Metzia folio 117B with parallel Hebrew-English text, traditional commentary, and modern study tools. Free access to Babylonian Talmud online.
Talmud: R' Yoḥanan says: In 3 places R' Yehuda taught us the principle that it is forbidden for a person to derive benefit from the property of another without his full awareness and consent, even if the other does not suffer a loss. One of the places where we are taught this principle is that whic
What is another place where we are taught this principle from R' Yehuda’s statements? As we learned in a Mishnah (Bava Kamma 100b): If one gives wool to a dyer to dye it red for him and instead he dyed it black, or to dye it black and he dyed it red, R' Meir says: The dyer gives the owner of the w
And what is the other, third place where we are taught this principle from R' Yehuda’s statements? As we learned in a Mishnah (Bava Batra 168a): In a case of a debtor who repaid part of his debt, and he deposited the promissory note with a third party serving as a trustee, to ensure that the credit
The Talmud refutes these proofs as to the general applicability of R' Yehuda’s rulings. Why is it necessary to explain in this manner? Perhaps R' Yehuda is saying this only here, with regard to the case of the Mishnah concerning a house and an upper story, only because there is the blackening of th
Alternatively, if one attempts to prove a general principle from the case where one instructed a dyer to dye the wool for him red and he dyed it black, it can be explained that the reason for the ruling of R' Yehuda is due to the fact that the dyer is changing and deviating from the owner’s instru