Bava Batra 164B

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But the date of this one, a tied document, is not the same as the date of that one, an ordinary document. In an ordinary document, when the king has reigned for one year, one year is counted for him, and when he has reigned for two years, two years are counted for him. By contrast, in a tied do

R' Yehuda HaNasi continues: And there are times this can be problematic, as in a case where the debtor borrows money from the creditor, and the details of the loan are written in a tied document. And the debtor chances upon some money in the interim, i.e., during the 1st year after the document was

R' Yehuda HaNasi continues: And then, when the time for repayment written in the promissory note arrives, the creditor will make it into an ordinary document by undoing its stitches and opening it up, and he can then say to the debtor: It is now that you borrowed this money from me, as attested in

The Talmud answers: R' Ḥanina ben Gamliel holds that one does not write a receipt in such cases. If a creditor loses his promissory note, the debtor need not pay him at all, out of concern that the debt may one day be collected again when the promissory note is found. He is not required to pay the d

The Talmud asks with regard to the previous discussion: And was R' Yehuda HaNasi expert in the halakhot of tied documents? But wasn’t there a certain tied document that came before R' Yehuda HaNasi, and when R' Yehuda HaNasi saw the date he said: This is a postdated document. And a Sage named Zunin